i am anti pretrib. i am strenuously, , completely, enomously against the teaching of a pretrib rapture.
i used to believe in it. until i started studying of, where it came from and found out it is a lie. it is a big fat evil lie that has ensnared most of the church in america. its premise is based on select quotes from scripture instead of comparing scripture to scripture in context and its based on assumptions and wishful thinking.
beliving in a pretrib is going to et you killed. it is going to leave you totally unprepared mentally, physically and spiritually for the coming persecutions and facing the mark fot he beast. its position will be the cause of the great falling away paul tells us about.
people who cling to it despite scriptural proof of the opposite are embracing a lie and rejecting the truth. preachers who teach this are teaching LIES.
im going to show you the lies in upcoming posts. because i have to. christians have to rebuke blatent lies that hurt the body of Christ. weiners fall back on "Oh, lets all just get along, lets not be devisive, lets not dwell on trivials topics'....all the while they spread their lies and leave the body of Christ ill prepared for what is coming.
well, im gonna tell you about their lies and their hypocriscies. you have a right to know. you have to know.
if a bad storm was coming that can potentially blow your house away and harm you , dont you want to know the truth about it or do you want to be told that it will never happen, all the while it is bearing down on you....
a storm is coming and im going to compare scripture with scripture and revela the pretrib lie.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013
2 Thess 2
of all the debates concerning the Coming of the Lord between pretrib or mid or post, the key i rest on is 2 Thess 2.
, Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
for some reason those who have adopted a pretrib position seem to forget this scripture. here paul cleqrly says that the day of Christ when we are gathered to Him will NOT happen until there is a falling away fromt he fatih and the man of sin is revealed standing in the temple blaspheming God and claiming to be god.
so unless paul is either lying or doesnt know what he is talking about, these 2 things Must take place. it is plain as day and staring us in the face---no pretrib, no gathering of the saints before these things happen.
so why is this ignored over and over?
people cling to a tradition of man instead of scripture. hey, who doesnt like the idea of being whisked away before any of the tribulation happens? but its just not true. when we cling to a tradition of man instead of scripture we open the door for orther deceptions.
we are choosing deception instead of truth. not only are we putting ourselves in harms way, we are ignoring what God is telling us.
when i talk with pretibbers and point scriptures out that obviusly refust their position they seem to just shrug and turn away, sometimes mumbling something aobut we all have different interpertations.
its NOT an interpretation, it is plain in yer face scripture. there is nothing to interpret, its right there.
the pretrib postion is a disneyland sort of spirituality--it is mans idea, not Gods. it is mans desire, not Gods.
i recently listened to a pastors interview, a guy named mcarther who claims that those 'left behind' can take the mark of the best and still be redeemed. they can still be saved.
you have GOT to be KIDDING!!!!!!!
has this man never read the bible? has he never read the book of Revelations. for all his awards and degrees and acclaims of being a great theologian with fame and fortune and a fancy mega-church, he is saying it is ok to take the mark of the beast????
this is a pretribber preacher, real well known and respected.
and he is allowed to call himself a christian pastor and the church congregation has not demanded he be censured or kicked out or defrocked or something........
my cat has more understanding of scripture than this guy.
his pretrib position has addled his brain so much that he cannot comprehend what God has said---those who take the mark will never be forgivine and will be cast into hell with their owner, satan.
i know it is considered not nice to speak out and make a nicse about other pastors or preachers when they trip over their tongues or speak heresies, but at some point we have to call a spade a spade.
this guy is lying, flat out lying and will be drawing people to their eternal doom with his lies.
paul says :et No Man Decieve You
Jesus says Let No Man Deceive You
over and over we are warned to not let ourselves be deceived, so why do so many embrace deception so lovingly?
pretribbers are the most fearful followers of Christ, they cannot comprehend or accept or contemplate they will face persecution and may have to give up their homes or jobs or families or even their lives because everyone will hate them because of Jesus. american christians are the worst----
we have not had to endure real persecution and even tho all over the world christians are being killed and persecuted and tormented right now, right now christians are being killed for Jesus, the american church tells itself that God wont let it happen here, that we will be snatched out before the bad stuff comes here.......
the amercian church is white bread empty calorie junk food twinkie church. it prefers its own definitions instead of the truth of scripture. the american church will be the first in the great falling away.
2thess2
, Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
for some reason those who have adopted a pretrib position seem to forget this scripture. here paul cleqrly says that the day of Christ when we are gathered to Him will NOT happen until there is a falling away fromt he fatih and the man of sin is revealed standing in the temple blaspheming God and claiming to be god.
so unless paul is either lying or doesnt know what he is talking about, these 2 things Must take place. it is plain as day and staring us in the face---no pretrib, no gathering of the saints before these things happen.
so why is this ignored over and over?
people cling to a tradition of man instead of scripture. hey, who doesnt like the idea of being whisked away before any of the tribulation happens? but its just not true. when we cling to a tradition of man instead of scripture we open the door for orther deceptions.
we are choosing deception instead of truth. not only are we putting ourselves in harms way, we are ignoring what God is telling us.
when i talk with pretibbers and point scriptures out that obviusly refust their position they seem to just shrug and turn away, sometimes mumbling something aobut we all have different interpertations.
its NOT an interpretation, it is plain in yer face scripture. there is nothing to interpret, its right there.
the pretrib postion is a disneyland sort of spirituality--it is mans idea, not Gods. it is mans desire, not Gods.
i recently listened to a pastors interview, a guy named mcarther who claims that those 'left behind' can take the mark of the best and still be redeemed. they can still be saved.
you have GOT to be KIDDING!!!!!!!
has this man never read the bible? has he never read the book of Revelations. for all his awards and degrees and acclaims of being a great theologian with fame and fortune and a fancy mega-church, he is saying it is ok to take the mark of the beast????
this is a pretribber preacher, real well known and respected.
and he is allowed to call himself a christian pastor and the church congregation has not demanded he be censured or kicked out or defrocked or something........
my cat has more understanding of scripture than this guy.
his pretrib position has addled his brain so much that he cannot comprehend what God has said---those who take the mark will never be forgivine and will be cast into hell with their owner, satan.
i know it is considered not nice to speak out and make a nicse about other pastors or preachers when they trip over their tongues or speak heresies, but at some point we have to call a spade a spade.
this guy is lying, flat out lying and will be drawing people to their eternal doom with his lies.
paul says :et No Man Decieve You
Jesus says Let No Man Deceive You
over and over we are warned to not let ourselves be deceived, so why do so many embrace deception so lovingly?
pretribbers are the most fearful followers of Christ, they cannot comprehend or accept or contemplate they will face persecution and may have to give up their homes or jobs or families or even their lives because everyone will hate them because of Jesus. american christians are the worst----
we have not had to endure real persecution and even tho all over the world christians are being killed and persecuted and tormented right now, right now christians are being killed for Jesus, the american church tells itself that God wont let it happen here, that we will be snatched out before the bad stuff comes here.......
the amercian church is white bread empty calorie junk food twinkie church. it prefers its own definitions instead of the truth of scripture. the american church will be the first in the great falling away.
2thess2
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